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SleepyHollow, inK.'s avatar

Well timed - I will point people to your good tips about being a better listener in a post I am doing about “silent | listen” (anagrams no less!) this week. It’s truly perhaps the hardest but most essential skill.

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Thank you - yes, I agree!

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Jane's avatar

Stays, I thought of you and your dogs when I saw this

https://mpost.tribel.com/public/posts/b6f3f490-df46-11ee-9d0c-05e4063ef858

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Oh, that is VERY cute!!! And yes, looks like they might be related to mine!

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Jane's avatar

Sorry, Satya. Didn’t check I’d spelled your name correctly before I posted.

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Jenni Johnson's avatar

I really loved how you ended this with the reminder to be gentle to ourselves. Listening is so hard 😅

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Thanks Jenni. I need to remind myself of that at the beginning and end of things, and often in the middle 🤣 and yes I'm with you - really good listening is REALLY hard (especially in certain circumstances - as I said somewhere else, listening properly to my clients, for various reasons, is actually a breeze!)

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Jenni Johnson's avatar

right?! It sounds bad; but the less you know a person the more curious you are and the EASIER it is to listen. To MORE you know a person, the harder it is to listen. I think I heard a study once that when another person is speaking to you, you can only predict with 30% accuracy what they actually mean. 😱

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Ah that's so interesting. And maybe relates to why my spouse Kaspa gets so regularly frustrated with me when I wrongly predict how they're going to finish their sentences 🙄

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Tinashe D. Ndhlovu's avatar

The essay reminds us about how important it is to listen well in our conversations with others. Suggesting that by truly listening, we can build stronger connections and resolve conflicts better. Thanks for this Satya.

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Thank you Tinashe! Lovely to have you here.

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Jenni Johnson's avatar

Agreed!

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Mark VanLaeys's avatar

"Noticing when we’re not listening well is most of the battle." I couldn't agree more. Being deliberate respectful and curious are surely three out of the four main pillars of good listening. Don't ask me what the fourth pillar is. But, I'm all ears if folk have their guesses.

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Compassion? Are these your four pillars Mark?

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Mark VanLaeys's avatar

I could definitely go with that - YES.

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Sarah Barker's avatar

Beautiful as always thank you for the great gift of your insight. Just been listening to the Van tuleken brothers talking about how to improve their relationship and listening was pivotal in it. An expert explained to them that sometimes listening means they feel the other’s pain which is why we avoid it. I wonder which parts are at play there? 🧡

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Thanks Sarah. There's lots of talk in IFS about the difference between PARTS feeling the pain of another, and Self feeling the pain, which has a different quality to it - Self can hold intense emotion and feel it, without being overwhelmed or feeling that it needs to be fixed/changed. It's a personal thing to start noticing this within ourselves... Good to have you here!

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Mark VanLaeys's avatar

I think that expert is on to something.

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Emily Conway's avatar

Hi Satya, I really appreciate this post on listening. I particularly appreciate the tie to IFS. I am a Spiritual Companion, and as such my primary job is to listen to my clients, to the words they speak and the undercurrent of those words, to their body language, their emotions. I find this practice incredibly helpful for me as I don’t have to fix or change or have any kind of agenda (this doesn’t mean that those don’t show up in sessions though). IFS, among other things, informs my practice, so I love that it came up here. If we are unable to listen to ourselves, I find that it is very difficult to truly listen to others. Thanks again!

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Hi Emily lovely to have you here. What a beautiful job - and yes, what a great link into listening to ourselves - everything I've said could also apply to how we listen to our own parts. It's an endlessly fascinating subject - in my opinion anyway. Glad you can be present for your clients in that way x

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Emily Conway's avatar

Thanks Satya. It is a beautiful job and I agree - an endlessly fascinating subject!

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Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt's avatar

Thank you for the gentle reminder. My advice giving part is a strong interrupter because I want to help people to avoid pitfalls - because I care deeply. I'm especially an advice giver when it comes to my kids and close friends. I mean, how can you NOT give them advice when you have lived this stuff and don't want them to be hurt like you were? It's such a conundrum, especially as they get older and need to experience the world and learn more independently. How do you draw the line between being a parent or a mentor? How do you know when to tell that part HUSH?

I'm also older and vocal and just have a LOT to say, stuff that I know, stuff I've built up and never released - it's hard. Sometimes I interject my own experiences where they don't belong. Also menopause is probably a thing. But I can't even tell, and my OBGYN says there's no definitive blood test. I wish I knew how much of this is hormonal, how much PTSD, how much anxiety, how much my physical body just breaking down. (See below.)

Also I get very distracted when listening to my husband sometimes. He tries to help but he's "the lecturer" of the family haha! My mind wanders, I feel like he isn't hearing my part and I get frustrated sometimes. Sometimes he's TOO logical and so I think he doesn't understand. His brain is very different. It's what I love about him but I often say, I wish you could be in my brain right this second and feel what I am feeling. Overall he's very patient and loving with me - except when I get super down on myself. He kind of loses his grip, which makes sense. I know that's hard for him to see because he loves me so deeply and doesn't know why I can't get past my own sense of needing to "do better," especially income wise. (I'm out of work and might be long-term and I will be needing to file for disability because I need to bring SOMETHING consistent in, but I don't really know exactly what my health issues are. I do know I can't work more than a little a time like I am and I'm prone to having breakdowns - definitely not sustainable. So I'm trying to focus on myself and getting healthy and just getting peace externally and internally. Thank you for being part of that process. Thank you for listening closely.)

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Satya Robyn's avatar

I hear you Katherine. Nothing wrong with advice-giving parts, just as long as they wait a little til after the listening, and maybe ask to see if the person you're listening to is in a place where they can hear it... sounds like you have lots of wisdom to pass on. Keep going!

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Mark VanLaeys's avatar

I'm learning that the importance of being patient enough to wait for the right time and situation to pass on our "wisdom," can't be overstated.

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Gaye's avatar

Just in the kitchen with my partner not listening at all, was already thinking about what I was going to say next...thank you for this timely reminder (and those gorgeous tufty ears!...LOVE!)

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Jenni Johnson's avatar

Partners are the most important and hardest to listen to 🤣

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Gaye's avatar

So true!!!! 😁

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Mark VanLaeys's avatar

That situation seems to be as common as the rain.

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Satya Robyn's avatar

Hehe. I sometimes think that listening to our nearest and dearest is the most challenging. I find listening EASY when I'm being a therapist!!

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Mark VanLaeys's avatar

After we've heard the same voice, rhythms, and words thousands of times, we instinctually recognize it as safe background noise. That is until our more evolved self kicks in and screams - HEY WAKE UP!

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